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Bureaucrat rights[edit]

Since you're the only active admin of A.W.A., shouldn't you ask ShoutWiki to give you crat rights? Do not pity the dead, Harry. Pity the living. 21:01, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

I don't have the need for that. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 21:51, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
😞 Do not pity the dead, Harry. Pity the living. 01:50, 4 May 2015 (UTC)


PLease block the following IP addresses, for vandalism/spam on Talk:Anti-Wikia Alliance: Special:Contributions/ Special:Contributions/ Digifiend (talk) 18:33, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Done, thanks. Although I suspect that's a botnet and the IP may change :S --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 08:39, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Spam protection filter[edit]

Hello, Ciencia Al Poder! My name is Stranger195 and I am having trouble with welcoming new users. I typed "{{subst:welcome|Stranger195|~~~~}}" into a new section of NellieYvq37941's talk page and it won't work, triggering the "SPAM (3)" filter of Anti-Wikia Alliance's spam filter. I need help. --Stranger195 (talkcontribsguestbook) 04:19, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Your edit was adding preformatted text. Please hit the "show preview" button to review your edit before saving. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 14:27, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Another false positive happened, triggering SPAM (6). The text was the text of the CC BY-SA 3.0 Unported: --Stranger195 (talk) 09:35, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
I've just removed the need to create such page, since the link to those terms is already available in the footer of every page. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 10:09, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
Yet another block happened! "This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: SPAM (3)"
What is wrong with this very unnecessary abuse filter?! Stranger195 (talk) 00:28, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
3 things:
Don't fill my talk page with this crap, I can see what you attempted to add when the filter prevented it, so don't copy it here.
Stop importing useless templates from Wikipedia. We don't need them,
That filter is very helpful (and thus necessary) in preventing spam. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 19:48, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Broken link in sitemessage[edit]

Hi, just to let you know the Wikia Shooter game link in the site message is broken. 21:32, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I've removed it, that domain seems to have expired. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 22:10, 6 December 2015 (UTC)


Hello , what is the something of this wiki? Regards. Dado que sabes español ,te pregunto en español: De que va este wiki? Un saludos. --Libros (talk) 12:26, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

This wiki is about the alliance of former Wikians against Wikia that started in 2010. They got angry when Wikia implemented the then-new skin "Oasis". --stranger195 @WikiMarkupWiki (talkcontribsguestbook) 04:35, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

AWA Twitter?[edit]

Hey just a suggestion but maybe we could make an AWA Twitter account, to promote the wiki? Jello chitchat! 21:07, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

I don't have the time for that, also this project is kinda dead. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 17:08, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

please revert[edit]

Talk:Anti-Wikia Alliance was deleted. it is protected i cant. 03:18, 7 November 2016 (UTC)


Hi Ciencia, just letting you know a spam flood has washed ashore. --Can I drink this?Do you want to EXPLODE!? 17:03, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Mar8122 Finally Exposed FANDOM![edit]


Part 4 is coming soon.

Hey, did you know FANDOM because leftist?[edit]

Mar8122: Did you know FANDOM became social justice warrior and PKMNLivesNew? All I see in this website is you guys complaining about the "Monaco" skin? What's so special about that skin? I mean, I didn't came here for the skin. I came here to tell you guys that FANDOM when SJW. Can anyone believe me, already!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mar8122 (talkcontribs)

Well, the Monaco skin was the start. This is like the boiling frog metaphor. We raise our concerns about this, but many people said that was over-reaction. Now look at wikia. Lack of customization, restricted MediaWiki namespace edits, forced portable infoboxes, forced features that were later discontinued... I know nothing about SJW, really (and I'm not interested) --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 18:48, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
And I sincerely thank you for keeping the wiki (mostly) about stuff like this. To many young people who just come here to yell crap like "FANDOM EXPOSED" and "SJW" rather than posting anything useful or interesting for people actually wanting to leave Wikia and looking for help doesn't help anyone. That said, Portable Infoboxes weren't forced on everyone. Nukapedia and Narutopedia both decided to not use them and Fandom left them alone, at least for now. Knowing them it's hard to tell how long it'll last, but it's something.--Jordan D (talk) 02:32, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
What? This wiki doesn't care about SJW? But social justice is the major issues for FANDOM, more worse than Monoco skin (to be fair, I personally dislikes that skin this wiki using). -- Mar8122
Poder, you do realize SJWs exist so here. --Angrybirdsfan
Yeah, my friend agrees with me. And I'm not going anywhere until this wiki agree with me that SJW is a big deal. -- Mar8122
Ok. Pick a comfortable place, because this may take an eternity :) --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 19:32, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Oh I will, Poder. Challenge accepted. --Mar8122 (talk)

Someone wouldn't let SMW users to go to Miraheze...[edit]

I'm the founder of the Atrocious FANDOM Wikis and Users Wiki and they wouldn't let Surreal Memes Wiki users to go there. JJTA1211 (talk) 01:11, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Re: HTTPS[edit]

No, it's definitely not supported at the moment. I've never rolled a certificate that covers *, nor have I set any production sites up to specifically serve from HTTPS. --Lewis Cawte (talk) ShoutWiki Staff 21:46, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

My discord is The Interitum#0202

i have a group that protests Fandom and Wikia. Please talk with me online.

About creating new wiki in Shout or Miraheza[edit]

Can anyone transfer the content from Fandom Wikia even if you are not the admin or mod ? --Shout007 (talk) 06:02, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes. Wikia still hasn't disabled Special:Export, so you can export all the contents even if you don't have an account. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 20:29, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I have exported the latest XML dump, but what about the Images. --Shout007 (talk) 01:36, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
For Shoutwiki you may ask staff if they can do that for you. Otherwise, you may use a software like WinHTTrack to scrape all files (you'll need to fine tune it to download only images). Another option is to use grabImages.php from Grabbers to download them. You'll need to upload them manually, or with the help of a bot like pywikibot. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 20:17, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank You --Shout007 (talk) 23:28, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
The XML database dump, Is just getting "Current pages" XML is okay or is it better to get "Current pages and history", because "current pages" XML is around 340MB whereas "Current pages and history" XML is like 20GB, is there any legal constraints regarding the content attribution. --Shout007 (talk) 08:28, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
and also can you export only pages edit history from past few days, like custom duration of page history or is it just "Current pages" and all "Current pages and history". --Shout007 (talk) 15:04, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
You can't import even the 340MB dump to Miraheze or Shoutwiki yourself, because the upload size is very limited and that's quite a lot of content, and will take a lifetime to import from the web interface. It depends on the license, but CC-BY-SA or GFDL requires full attribution, and you should import the entire contents. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 21:15, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I have asked the sys admin to Import it, about the grabImages.php, when I run the script, It says you need maintenance.php, which I don't understand, I am new to php. --Shout007 (talk) 05:00, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Those scripts need a complete MediaWiki installation. I don't know if it will work if you don't have an actual usable MediaWiki instance... --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 19:09, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Ok I installed mediawiki and got some php scripts running but still getting errors, is there any link where its shown step by step. --Shout007 (talk) 04:58, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
No. That script was designed some years ago and it may not have been tested for compatibility to recent MediaWiki versions. I don't have time to review that. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 16:44, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Lets take out wikia admin and bureaucrat from April 2010 is back![edit]

I'm back pitches. I almost took out wikia last time. Now I am here to finish the fight.

I am trying to find my old username. I missed you man, 2A00:1370:814D:B3C3:24BB:8181:771D:8AC9 02:09, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

First edit:
14:02, 28 April 2010 diff hist -3‎ Help:Widgets ‎ →‎Create a custom widget: more easier to understand name
First edit of founder Smiley:
00:28, 9 October 2010 diff hist +111‎ User talk:Airhogs777 ‎
First edit of founder Airhogs777
18:42, 3 October 2010 diff hist +3,776‎ N Anti-Wikia Alliance ‎ Created page with Warning: This page may be outdated. See this page on Wikia (here) for the latest update. ---- {| class="infobox" s…'18:42, 3 October 2010 diff hist +3,776‎ N Anti-Wikia Alliance ‎ Created page with Warning: This page may be outdated. See this page on Wikia (here) for the latest update. ---- {| class="infobox" s…'

First edit by Ciencia Al Poder:
10:04, 14 November 2010 diff hist -588‎ Forked wikis ‎ →‎Wiki Links: trying to shorten the width of the table normalizing links (link to the main domain if it redirects to main page (better SEO)
Did I invite you to this group from Wikipedia or wikia Ciencia Al Poder? I dont remember. I remember we were hardcore allies 11 years ago Anno1404 22:10, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
I joined from Wikia myself. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 23:26, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Possible suggestion[edit]

Since you are the only active admin here, I have a suggestion. I wonder if we should fork this wiki over to Miraheze, since that way we might get more traffic. I really want to revive the Anti-Wikia Alliance, but I just want to know if you would approve of forking this wiki to Miraheze. And we don’t necessarily have to shut this wiki down, just fork it. ShoutWiki doesn’t seem to be very active nowadays. Also, Miraheze has several benefits: It has hundreds of extensions and fifteen different skins, one of which I think is Monaco. Also, Miraheze has no ads, and is completely free. I think that it would be a good idea if we forked this wiki there, but I just wanted to ask for your approval, since you are the only active admin. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 21:09, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Blubabluba9990! This wiki is not very active and we have currently no problems with it being host on Shoutwiki. Forking would only cause an unnecessary confusion to readers that come here from search engines or links. Forking always comes with a cost (I know it very well) and I'll avoid that unless necessary. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 21:40, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Ok. I was thinking that we could move it to make it more active. I really want to revive this wiki, as I have discovered that ShoutWiki itself is mostly inactive: the only contributions to the main wiki have been user creation. It doesn’t seem like there are many users coming here in general. Though there are other ways: We could always have the links redirect to the Miraheze version, or say on the main page that the wiki has moved to Miraheze, though I am open to other suggestions as to how we can increase activity and traffic. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 21:47, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
How a host change could make users more interested in editing, or attract traffic? The opposite is usually true for changing hosts. On the other hand, this wiki doesn't need to be active. Most of the topic is already covered, and it only needs small maintenance when a new wiki forks. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 22:59, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
It isn’t necessarily the content I am worried about as much as the fact that the Anti-Wikia Alliance seems to be declining in popularity, and I don’t want the AWA to die. There are only a few active users. And ShoutWiki in general seems to be declining in popularity, since like I said, there are very few edits on the main wiki itself apart from user creations. I really want to revive this wiki and revive the AWA. I mean you seem to be the only active admin here, as Airhogs and Smiley are inactive, and Anno04 seems to have returned but something tells me that he is not the real Anno04 because he seems to just be spamming. Also Airhogs came back briefly in 2019, but that may not have even been him, it could have been that his account was hacked. I feel like if we did move to Miraheze, more users would join the AWA. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:08, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Still, this is a wiki, it doesn't really matter where it's hosted. Being hosted in Miraheze or Shoutwiki makes no difference in user activity. Of course, users having an account on any wiki hosted here or there will automatically have an account on AWA without the need to create a new one, but I don't think this benefit (which is moot because most people create accounts on any website without problems) is sufficient to move this wiki to Miraheze. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 09:42, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Well there has to be some way we can get more recruits and revive the Anti-Wikia Alliance. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:55, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

User:Blubabluba9990 i like the idea. You have only been editing here for 7 days. Psychologically people tend not to take advice from people who they just met. I always give HUGE ideas, and I am viewed with suspicion, Especially here in Moscow.

I suggest that you can help me with my wiki (i am almost a founder, doing lots of work to really scare mediawiki). So much of this wiki is my baby and Ceincia's. Gain our trust, thank you for the link! Anno1404 20:20, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I may be new here, but I have been on FANDOM and Miraheze for a while. Read my userpage, it will give a synopsis. I am also very active on Miraheze. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 00:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Bulk upload[edit]

1. How do i bulk upload pictures

2. Can I post youtube videos ?


Anno1404 20:24, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

There's no bulk upload here, but easy to upload one by one anyway. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 23:26, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

bureaucrat and administrator rights back please[edit]

30, 15 April 2019 Airhogs777 talk contribs changed group membership for Anno1404 from bureaucrat and administrator to (none)

Thank you. Anno1404 20:27, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Welcome back! It has been a while. Would you care to explain why did you add a red link on the main page, that looks totally irrelevant to this wiki's topic? --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 23:26, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
my mistake, sorry! the beauty of wikis are they quickly reverted. Anno1404 05:30, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

alternative wiki farms[edit]

Hello, it appears as if:

1: I cannot create any new wikis here (you deleted my alert about this on the main template), and also
2: many of the wikis have moved.

Other than this list, of free hosting services, do you have any suggestions for an alterative?

I signed up for:

  1. as the person above suggested. And i am waiting.
  2. doesn't work (I am in Russia and it is hosted by Isreal and America)

Thanks. Anno1404 22:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure I follow you. Your alert was not about creating new wikis, but a random wiki page that doesn't exist here. I think all wiki hostings are already covered. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 23:26, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Sorry again. I was aspiring to make this wiki. I guess the ability to create new wikis is now broken? how has it been the past 5 years? Anno1404 05:32, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Miraheze is probably the best wiki hosting service. They offer hundreds of extensions, fifteen different skins, they are completely ad-free, and they have very helpful staff who respond very quickly. If you want to move anywhere, move there. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 00:51, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Looks like CreateWiki is down since September. Shoutwiki is probably not under active development. It's currently functional but not accepting new wiki creations. I agree about Miraheze being the best host currently, although it was closing wikis that have been inactive for more than... 3 months? I don't remember. Is this situation still a thing? This could make a personal project wiki fall into a suddenly deleted wiki when you want to check back after being inactive for a while. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 09:02, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Yes it is a thing, though that is only if the wiki has had no activity, and you actually can request your wiki to be exempt from dormancy, and it being a wiki that is only meant to be read is one of the main reasons. But this wiki still has a little bit of activity, so it won’t go dormant as long as there are enough edits. Since this is a personal project wiki like you said, the stewards would probably accept it being exempt from dormancy. So yeah, I feel like moving this wiki to Miraheze might be a good idea since it seems like what you said is correct: ShoutWiki doesn’t seem to be actively developed. Also, I think Miraheze is a good hosting service simply because they are a foil to FANDOM, and I think that some of the Miraheze staff actually dislike FANDOM, so they kind of align with our ideology. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 19:20, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Just to be clear: I'm against moving this wiki from Shoutwiki, as I said before. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 23:10, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Ok. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 00:31, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Russian characters are not allowed[edit]

all Russian characters are blocked by spambot!

all Russian characters are blocked by spambot! Anno1404 00:50, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes, spambots like to spam this wiki, but this shiny filter keeps them away from here, reducing the maintenance burden. Isn't that good? :D
On the other hand, creating a Russian page here seems completely offtopic. Have you tried creating a wiki on Miraheze instead? --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 09:14, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

New wikia removed by WIKIA! FANDOM[edit]


My wiki was deleted why - bad report wikia fandom.png


Edward was blocked - russian wikia - bad report wikia fandom.png

Anno1404 00:53, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Is there anything actionable from my part? I don't understand why it was posted on my talk page. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 09:16, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

New wiki approved by miraheze[edit]

Dok-tok miraheze approved march 9 2021.png

Screencapture-miraheze-org-2021-03-10-04 02 40.png

Dok-tok miraheze approved march 9 2021 Anno1404 01:02, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Is there anything actionable from my part? I don't understand why it was posted on my talk page. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 09:17, 10 March 2021 (UTC)


As one of the "co-founders" of the AWA, who edited here before the founders edited here, I !vote that the dormant wikis here be moved to Miraheze. Shoutwiki can remain as a legacy site. We appreciate Ciencia Al Poder keeping the lights on, *so much* but it is time to build elsewhere.

Reasons why:
  1. No new wikias can be created (biggest issue)
  2. The wikia is dead
  3. bulk upload is unavailable.

Alternative solutions:

I suggest that I create my wiki on this page
User:Blubabluba9990 actively emails all old users
bulk upload is enabled. MsUpload.
I get back bureaucrat and admin rights on my bday April 16. (48 years old)


For moving until awa can accept new edits, etc.[edit]

  1. Anno1404 00:38, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
  2. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 21:03, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Against temporary move[edit]

  1. Jeez, these are some stupid arguments. Feels like trolling. K599 (talk) 22:53, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
  2. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 10:59, 12 March 2021 (UTC)


  • Well, as all of the active users here have voted, it seems like we have a tie. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 20:18, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

When will the new wikia be online again?[edit]

  1. When will I be able to post new wikias here? It is broken.
  2. how long has it been broken. Thanks. Anno1404 15:07, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
I am not sure, but Ciencia said that wiki creation has been down since September of 2020, and she also said that ShoutWiki might not be being actively developed. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 22:11, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Wikia is now FANDOM. If for creating "new wikias" do you mean creating a new wiki on Wikia or FANDOM, you can do so by requesting one on their website. If you talk about ShoutWiki, I'm not a ShoutWiki staff, but you can ask them for clarification. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 12:47, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
I think he means here on ShoutWiki. Also you said that ShoutWiki wasn’t being actively developed, and I agree, because I haven’t seen much activity from staff. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 18:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

We won[edit]

Apparently, FANDOM is implementing a new skin that gives more content space, and includes a dark mode:,_the_new_look_and_feel_for_desktop_users

Now it hasn’t been implemented yet, but this means that after 10 years, FANDOM has finally listened to us!

Though since you and Anno1404, the last remaining AWA members, are banned indefinitely and your accounts are disabled, you may not be able to return.

My reaction:

Blubabluba9990 (talk) 21:59, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

I won already when I took the wiki I was editing out of wikia, and it's now a big success. I'd say maybe all remaining users won, but wikia is still wikia and interfering with community decisions. This hasn't changed at all, as you can see on the latest Wookiepedia issue from less than a month ago. --Ciencia Al Poder (talk) 18:27, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
True. We got one of our wishes, but as time went on, Oasis was no longer Wikia/FANDOM’s biggest problem. But considering the AWA was formed on the basis of the Monaco skin, we kind of got our original wish. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 18:59, 2 April 2021 (UTC)