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"Our intention is to reduce the commercialism of the site, not increase it."
―Jimbo Wales, founder/President of Wikia, Inc., Guildwars Wikia, 2007[1]
"If these images (showing an editor is being 'compensat(ed) ... somewhere around a quarter of a million') are valid, then our number 1 priority is to get as much of the guildwiki data off the servers as possible for a fork. Wikia may buy off one person, but they cannot buy a community.'"
Editor about the Guildwars buyout

If you are a member of a large Wikia, and the veteran editors are unwilling to leave, the reason maybe that they have been paid, or are being paid ongoing advertising revenue.

Wikia regularly buys out wikis, giving core editors thousands of dollars to join Wikia.

Which poses the question: Do the leaders of your wikia site have the communities best interest in mind?

Wikias bought out[edit]

ArmchairGM[edit]

From: [1], this site was founded Dec 2005 and sold to Wikia a year later.

$2 million bucks, according to TuftsDaily. Wow.

Guildwiki[edit]

From: [2]

$62,000 and $3,000 in stock for gamewikis, (see the leaked contract below)

GraveWit answering questions:

  • First Things First: Are You Getting Paid For This
  • Short answer: Yes.
  • Long answer: Wikia gave me some cash and company stock in exchange for all of the related GameWikis URLs, a data dump of all of our content, and the discontinuation of my hosting of the sites. As you're probably aware, GameWikis has had suitors before. This is truly not about the money.

Contract[edit]

Among the highlights (very approximately, see the original "draft domain and content assignment" contract for details):

  • The vendor sells the guildwiki.org domain and what little copyright they own (which is limited, given the Creative Commons licences)
  • The vendor loses freedom to give interviews discussing the transaction without Wikia's consent, as their ability to speak out is limited to "vague praise of Wikia"
  • The vendor is required to delete or destroy data in their possession, as an obstacle to their launching any subsequent project in the same field
  • The vendor is broadly prohibited from discussing the contractual details of the agreement, and is constrained from issuing press releases or public statements

A Guildwiki at guildwiki.org looks to have tried to break free from Wikia, only to fall victim to Wikia's acquisition of their new host, Curse Media. See [3] and commentary on Curse Media (below).

World of Warcraft[edit]

The original owners of WoWWiki were given money to come to Wikia initially, they are long since gone and no one remaining in the admin staff (of Wowpedia) was part of that pay-off. Pcj 18:33, November 30, 2010 (UTC)[4]

Since WoWWiki forked to Wowpedia, Wikia Staff has hired a paid volunteer to try to keep pages up to date, since all active admins left to Wowpedia.

This is exactly why we hired Raylan13, an active WoW player, to focus only on WoWWiki, primarily on the addition, organization and maintenance of Cataclysm articles. [5]

As the final insult? In the finest tradition of the "slave catchers" who dragged fugitive slaves back to their Confederate masters in the 1840s, Wikia's buyout of Curse (which was operating Wowpedia at the time) served only to drag unwilling users back to Wikia's unpaid servitude. See Wikipedia's article on Wowpedia for the full series of transactions behind this.

Also: [6]

Part of: Help:Helper_Group

List of helpers: Special:ListUsers/helper

Memory Alpha (The Star Trek canon wiki)[edit]

Memory Alpha (CC BY-NC) with Amazon ads

Like Uncyclopedia, Memory Alpha is under a non-commercial licence (Creative Commons BY-NC) and was once an independent project on its own domain. The content rightfully belongs to its authors, not Wikia, not one or two individuals who claimed that Wikia was just offering to "host" the project to avoid some relatively small cost of the community buying space in a legitimate datacentre, before ultimately selling out (in Memory Alpha's case €100/month in hosting costs was supposedly the obstacle, in Uncyclopedia's case 100Mb in storage space).

As always, there was no prior warning to the owners of the content that the domain name was even for sale (which fits the secrecy pattern spelled out in the contract for GameWikis, above).

Memory-Alpha's long list of complaints includes:

  • Wikia creates alternate language MA versions without any discussion with the existing community, and without making sure they fit with MA policies regarding canon.
  • Wikia forced a change to a new skin that is more includes more than 1MB of scripts, and generally slows down every page load.
  • Wikia has added flash advertising inside the articles that displaces sidebars and images in the articles with ads bigger than the image thumb size.
  • Wikia is moving us from memory-alpha.org to memory-alpha.wikia.com, so they can attract more advertisers, which of course means they intend to sell more ads, and they'll need to find a place for them on the pages that are most viewed.

See discussions at

Uncyclopedia[edit]

English Uncyclopedia[edit]

Uncyclopedia co-founder Jonathan Huang (Chronarion) sold the "uncyclopedia.org" domain name to Wikia in 2006 in secret, much to the displeasure of the community.[2][3] Wikia has since turned "uncyclopedia.org" into a simple redirect to "uncyclopedia.wikia.com", again against the wishes of the users and despite strong objections. The project was forked in 2013 due to censorship and content warnings; to the dismay of those that stayed, a forced reskin in 2018 broke the key concept that (as an encyclopaedia parody) Uncyclopedia should look like Wikipedia. Wikia's Oasis skin was saturated with click-bait links and images to the "most popular pages", which inevitably meant titles like "Blowjob" or "Child Porn" got clicked often because of their names. Wikia ultimately retaliated by shutting down basically every Uncyclopedia language in April-May 2019. Any links to uncyclopedia.wikia.com et al. will merely return "This wiki is closed" with no indication the projects may be alive and well elsewhere; most of the inbound links (and associated SEO) which were lost will likely never be recovered. At the end of the Uncyclopedia era on Wikia, Sannse accepted to transfer the uncyclopedia.org domain name to the current bureaucrat of the site,[4] only to renege a little over a month later with "No word on the domain name transfer I'm afraid. I can prod once more, but it's not a high priority, and I may not be able to get it done."[5]

Wikia and Huang both refuse to disclose the amount paid for the "uncyclopedia.org" domain name[6].

Quote from Carlb:

Pity that Chronarion sold the uncyclopedia.org domain to Wikia in 2006 without consulting with the community first; that move did untold harm to the project and its editorial autonomy. By then, I was already seeing issues which were making the implementation of "Babel projects" - Uncyclopedias in other languages - more difficult. The first of these was the French-language Désencyclopédie, which Wikia originally turned down because its creator wanted the non-commercial CC-BY-NC-SA licence (which is needed to reuse content from en.uncyclopedia, as-is or translated). Others such as Spanish and Italian soon followed. Among the original issues was an inability to create arbitrary language 'xx' under 'xx.uncyclopedia.org' (Wikia was forcing everything onto their *.wikia.com domain with their incompatible licence) and inability to edit the interwiki link table. By the time the next batch (Portuguese, Japanese, Taiwan - traditional script and a few others) was created in 2006, it looked easier just to pay for an <expletive> server on a domain name which wasn't controlled by people outside the project and install Linux, MediaWiki - all of it is being given away free. Sadly, by then, the damage had been done for many of the projects. Sure, Wikia claims "we host you for free" and "the project belongs to the community", but nothing could be further from the truth. Wikia has made a lot of changes which have alienated a lot of communities - a series of ad-heavy forced reskins in 2006-08 were bad enough to actually get a bit of unfavourable mainstream media coverage (UK Guardian and The Register, IIRC) and, when disgruntled communities took their content and went elsewhere, Wikia's attitude was that those who had left were "no longer part of the community" and therefore their opinions did not matter - even through they created the original content.

Certainly, there are Uncyclopedias which have already moved - the Americans and the Russians are two examples. Wikia has done their utmost to abuse the search engine duplicate content penalty to destroy these projects, but they are very much still in operation. I am sure that there will be more. I have domain names for most of the individual-language Uncyclopedia projects; some of these redirect to Wikia at the moment, but that could change very easily. For instance, I hold the registration on *.uncyclopedia.info but a visit to ko.uncyclopedia.info redirects to an independent project in Korea - because I have no reason to demand that a project be hosted on my server just to use the domain name or just to have an entry in the interwiki links tables from a few Uncyclopedia-related projects which I have been hosting here since 2006.

As far as getting the old site removed? That's likely the biggest problem... I've only seen it done successfully once. "Spanking Art" used to have their wiki here. A troll discussion group which operates a domain just to attack (or, in their words, "review") Wikipedia decided to take it down as collateral damage by gathering a stack of screen shots containing whatever content they didn't like - surrounded by all of those pesky Wikia ads. They then contacted Wikia and told them to remove the project or else the trolls would contact every advertiser and show them exactly what they've been bankrolling here. Wikia folded like a cheap suit that day. I've never seen anything quite like it - they've been very brave when it comes to defying the Uncyclopedia community on everything from an unwanted forced domain name change to censorship of images to dumb the project down to PG-rated levels to this senseless reskin which completely breaks both usability and the ability to have Uncyclopedia look and feel like that other great encyclopaedia parody, Wikipedia. I'm more than willing to take in any refugees (this is beginning to look like a virtual Roxham Road - that tiny dead-end street where the world is funnelling into Canada as the situation degrades elsewhere), update interwiki links as needed and update any domains I hold to point to the new project (even if it's hosted somewhere else) instead of pointing to Wikia.

Oddly, there was one incident in 2006-07 where one tiny project (Czechloslovakia's version of Uncyclopedia) moved to Wikia and I didn't get one request from Wikia staff saying "please leave the old version up in competition with their new project". Funny double standard, that - but with no paid staff, I'm actually not in a position to censor content to keep users from finding out that a community has gone elsewhere. Wikia does this routinely. Pity.

German Uncyclopedia[edit]

A German-language version of Uncyclopedia, originally created independently in 2005 as uncyclopedia.de, was separately handed over to Wikia and the original data then deleted by its founders. The entire image collection was lost in transfer. It is unknown whether anyone at uncyclopedia.de was paid to do this (although "hand everything over and then delete the originals" is among standard Wikia contract terms as noted for GuildWiki above).

Note that this affects only the domains "uncyclopedia.org" and "uncyclopedia.de"; various other languages in the Uncyclopedia series remain as independent or non-Wikia. Each is an independent project, unified by a (mostly) common logo and theme and a (semi-complete) set of interwiki links... but little else.

Screen Junkies[edit]

On July 2, 2018, Defy Media sold Screen Junkies to Wikia, Before Defy Media finally shutting down on November 6, 2018.

Gamepedia[edit]

On December 12, 2018 Wikia announces it acquires Curse Media by having a subsidiary of Amazon, Twitch Interactive sold Curse LLC to Wikia, Curse LLC has the Gamepedia service (it hosts several gaming wikis), Curse Ads, Straw Poll, Hearthpwn, D&D Beyond, Minecraft Forums, Nexus Mods and Many More. Despite Curse's Relationship with Twitch in connection with other Twitch Services will not be impacted by this buyout, but still requires Twitch account, While Curse's client software and the CurseForge network, which both now operate directly under Twitch Interactive, a subsidiary of Amazon.

Buyout offers[edit]

Battlestar Wiki[edit]

Offered "$2,500 up front payment or 30% in advertising revenues." by Angela Beesey.[7]

Bulbapedia[edit]

Forum postings about Wikia trying to buy out "Bulbapedia": [7]

An alleged email from Angela Beesey.[8]

wikiHow[edit]

This page says: "wikiHow is not hoping to be acquired... We're already profitable, financially stable, and we all love working here, so we aren't in a rush to sell out. Selling might mean the end to a product that we all love working on." This implies that multiple offers to buy out wikiHow have been made; however, there is no info about exactly who made these offers.

Acquired without any info on exchange of money[edit]

The following wikis were acquired by Wikia, but there is no information available about exchange of money to the founders.

Lostpedia (lostpedia.wikia.com)[edit]

See:

  1. http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Lostpedia:WikiaFAQ
  2. http://blog.lostpedia.com/2008/12/lostpedia-joins-with-wikia.html
  3. http://www.prweb.com/releases/Wikia/Lostpedia/prweb1956864.htm
  4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lostpedia

Interesting to note that Wikia had an earlier wiki on the Lost series, which still continues to exist at lost.wikia.com It seems like merging both of the wikis could not happen due to differences in CC licensing.

Lostpedia is Creative Commons BY-NC-ND (non-commercial, no derivatives). As with Memory Alpha, Wikia is openly ignoring the non-commercial licence to display huge commercial display banner ads.

LyricWiki[edit]

See:

  1. http://lyrics.wikia.com/LyricWiki:Wikia_Migration_FAQ
  2. https://paidcontent.org/article/419-wikia-buys-lyric-wiki-as-part-of-music-expansion/
  3. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090924/0151096298.shtml
  4. http://downloadsquad.switched.com/2009/10/20/wikia-gets-into-the-lyrics-business-acquires-lyricwiki/

LyricWiki appears to have stopped accepting public edits in early 2019; Wikia staff went on a deletion spree starting 24 April 2019, exterminating hundreds of politically-incorrect song titles. For example, Khia's "Questions For The Niggaz" and "Don't Trust No Nigga" were removed from his discography and the entries for the individual songs deleted.

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